7mm Manning Wardle Old Class i: a self-designed 'kit'

[Pencarrow]

I've not followed the build thread, or know the prototype, John but the end result looks lovely.

 

[John Baker]

I am on my 17th kit for 7mm scale and so far all of the detail parts are castings, no 3DP for me yet.

Agreed that pretty much all kits come with metal ones - I was really wondering what people would think if a kit came with 3D printed ones instead? Personally, I like the permanency of metal, but there are benefits to 3DP, not least being far easier to produce.

 

[freelance7]

Metal castings for me.

Paul

 

[simond]

I’m making lots of loco bits on my 3D printer.

It’s a horses for courses thing. Some things will be too fragile, but the speed, fidelity and economy of 3DP is fantastic.

 

[RichardG]

I am sure many modellers would adapt this kit in their own way to build a specific loco. So make the detail parts in the way which is easiest for you. The main thing (my opinion) is to provide parts and write the instructions in a way to let the buyer build a specific loco, this being of your choice. This will give them a baseline from which to make their changes.

 

[Marc Dobson]

I'm working on a few loco kits at the moment all of which will be mixed media. For example I'm doing the other two Y6 tram locos (there were 3 versions) connoisseur kits do the other one. The kit will have a HD 3D printed body (4 pieces) brass chassis, roof and cow catchers with a mix of brass and printed detail parts.
I'm also working on two Andrew Barclay tanks. These have printed boiler/fire box/smoke box assembly sat on a Nickel silver chassis and footplate.
You just have to look at what you want to do and as the question what material is going to do the job.
Marc

 

[John Baker]

Version 3 of the etches arrived the other day for the Old Class i. Is there anything more satisfying than a fresh set of un-tarnished etches? Just like fresh snow.....looks beautiful as it is untouched, but lots of fun to be had making pretty things from it

There were not wholesale changes to be made here, just a couple of small things. I've been collecting various bits of kit over the last couple of years in order to make my own castings - all the way from 3D modelling, through printing, to finally investment casting. Very much looking forwards to the latter! I will also be attempting the inside motion once again, as well as refining the reliability of run-out on the wheels. May also try my hand at lining......

 

[garratt396]

A very impressive model, the early Mannings are fascinating prototypes. One more might I suggest is the 0-4-0 tender loco. I think four were built, the first by EB Wilson, the rest by Mannings. A distinctive prototype which has character. 4ft drivers, flap smokebox door, wood framed tender, and that splendid dome.

The SS 0-6-0st mentioned earlier had 4ft drivers in the more common industrial version, larger - 4ft6in ?, on the Brecon & Merthyr version.

 

[John Baker]

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A very impressive model, the early Mannings are fascinating prototypes. One more might I suggest is the 0-4-0 tender loco. I think four were built, the first by EB Wilson, the rest by Mannings. A distinctive prototype which has character. 4ft drivers, flap smokebox door, wood framed tender, and that splendid dome.

The SS 0-6-0st mentioned earlier had 4ft drivers in the more common industrial version, larger - 4ft6in ?, on the Brecon & Merthyr version.

It is a lovely prototype - I find the further back you go the more attractive they are. The later ones got a bit bulky for my taste. I shall certainly keep it in mind.....I haven't 100% decided which I'll do once the Old Class I has been finished.

 

[garratt396]

I did plan on making this myself, though cannot now. I do have some more photographs and a very basic drawing. It was from the Locomotive I think. Let me know if you do decide to go ahead.
David

 

[John Baker]

For those of you following along with this glacially slow project.....a little further progress over on my 3D printing and CAD workbench thread:
JB's 3D CAD & Printing bench, post #64

 

[Osgood]

Looks like a fascinating journey of skill learning and honing, John - must be very rewarding when it all comes right.

How about this for your next project?
(Just a suggestion - no pressure - really )

Hawthorn's Railway Engine - Capital Collections

www.capitalcollections.org.uk

And from the Edinburgh Society of Model Engineers:

 

[John Baker]

Looks like a fascinating journey of skill learning and honing, John - must be very rewarding when it all comes right.

How about this for your next project?
(Just a suggestion - no pressure - really )

Hawthorn's Railway Engine - Capital Collections

www.capitalcollections.org.uk

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And from the Edinburgh Society of Model Engineers:
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Now that one looks like an interesting one to look into!

 

[John Baker]

Soooo....it's been a while. However I've not been totally idle in the 9 months or so since I last updated about this project. As you may have read on my 3D printing & casting thread, I've been 'dabbling' in the mysterious art of casting. Have a read through that thread if you're interested in the process Post #87 showed the arrival of version 3 of the etches. These built up very nicely indeed - I haven't posted during this build as I've documented this previously. There are some photos below of the finished, painted loco, which I think has come out rather nicely. I went for the full roof option this time rather than my preferred weatherboard. I also fitted this loco with radio control - the battery, receiver and voltage booster all pack into the boiler tube. Unfortunately I didn't think to take any photos during this stage, so you'll have to take my word it all fits in!

Although momentum has somewhat been lost due to the time it's taken me to get to this point, there were a number of people interested in buying this as a kit when I was developing the etched and building the first couple of versions. Happily, it is now available as a kit to buy - if you are interested PM me and I'll let you know how to get your hands on one. Some photos below of the loco & kit.

John

 

[John Baker]

A few pics of the kit - you get the etches, high quality castings, full instructions with build photographs, wheel bearings, various thicknesses of nickel silver wire, handrail knobs, nickel silver tube for the boiler, wood for the buffers and cab floor etc etc. Will need wheels, gearbox & motor (compatible parts referenced in the instructions) and pickups to complete.

 

[Dog Star]

Those instructions look like covering all of the bases, well done.

What are the recommended wheels?

 

[John Baker]

Currently Slaters do a set of Manning Wardle pattern wheels that are the correct size - I used them on version 3 above. I intend producing some myself - just developing a boss to fit onto slaters axles, and a jig to keep everything in line and concentric. They should be available in the next couple of months

 

[Paul Tomlinson]

A kit of quality and very nicely-presented. Thumbs-up from me.

 

[RichardG]

Please John, could you make the instruction book available for download or send me a copy? I think this would help me to make the decision on whether to purchase. The kit does look very tempting indeed, but I ought to inform myself as well as I can first.

 

[daifly]

Please John, could you make the instruction book available for download or send me a copy? I think this would help me to make the decision on whether to purchase. The kit does look very tempting indeed, but I ought to inform myself as well as I can first.

Richard

John already did: https://irp.cdn-website.com/848e87b3/files/uploaded/MW+Old+Class+i+Instructions-230d7ada.pdf

Dave