Elmham Market in EM

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James Spooner

James Spooner

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Easterner said:
Great to catch up with your thread Nigel, I've got a 7mm GER Restaurant to finish to a similar period to yours so great to see someone else building one!
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Thanks Josh. I’ve almost finished the house I’m making for @Herb Garden so that should unlock a pair of sides for a third dining saloon as these often still ran in pairs, even in the 1950’s. They all seem to have been rebuilt during the 1930’s but there were differences in the rebuilds, with some getting Fox bogies and others Gresley, so it is useful to know which number to model. I have also been fortunate in the GERS modellers group to gain access to a few photos of these carriages in the post war period.

Nigel
 
Easterner

Easterner

Western Thunderer
James Spooner said:
Thanks Josh. I’ve almost finished the house I’m making for @Herb Garden so that should unlock a pair of sides for a third dining saloon as these often still ran in pairs, even in the 1950’s. They all seem to have been rebuilt during the 1930’s but there were differences in the rebuilds, with some getting Fox bogies and others Gresley, so it is useful to know which number to model. I have also been fortunate in the GERS modellers group to gain access to a few photos of these carriages in the post war period.

Nigel
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Thanks Nigel.
Would you be able to share any further details about the GERS Modellers Group - May be best by PM?
 
James Spooner

James Spooner

Western Thunderer
As I noted in @Herb Garden’s thread the house is now finished and hopefully winging its way over to the Skeetsmere hive of activity. My attention is now turning back to the GE kitchen car, although I had a few distractions during the week.

I had arranged a couple of operating sessions with friends, one on Wednesday and one on Friday. When I tested the layout before the first session I realised I would have to replace a point motor on the double slip and resolder a couple of joints (the temperature extremes in the attic range from about +35 to -5 centigrade so it is a bit of an occupational hazard). Both sessions went pretty well although I had to do some more maintenance yesterday as further joints failed. Whilst doing that I couldn’t resist a photo. I’m not quite sure how it will come out as it was taken on my phone…

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Back to the workbench for the kitchen car and I have started glazing. From photos a number of the windows in the kitchen area were in frosted glass. I am using 20thou PETG sheet for the glazing and have spent the evening carefully cutting pieces out and sanding the backs of certain areas to give the impression of frosting. A couple of photos attached…

Nigel


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James Spooner

James Spooner

Western Thunderer
More progress on the kitchen car glazing today. The windows come in several different shapes and sizes on this carriage, especially after the LNER rebuilding in the 1930’s so the kitchen end has relatively low light windows but the dining end has full depth windows with ventilators (all represented by different etched layers in the kit) and of course the doors are different again. I have managed to complete all of the windows on one side and just need to complete the dining windows on the kitchen side. For the time being, though, making quince jelly is taking priority so I’ll resume window manufacturing tomorrow. Some photos attached.

Nigel


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James Spooner

James Spooner

Western Thunderer
The quince jelly seems to have worked out OK and the batch made just over ten pounds of jelly; plenty for my roast lamb over the winter!

That’s also the glazing finished. Interior next. The kit provides etched partitions for the kitchen/attendant’s cabin and I have 3D printed seats but the rest will need to be scratchbuilt. Given the size of the windows I would like to put something on the tables but a quick search on the interweb seems to imply no cutlery or crockery for any scale smaller than 1:32… I will need to put my thinking cap on. A photo of the completed glazing attached.

Nigel

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James Spooner

James Spooner

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I have taken the etched pieces and shaped and formed them to create the kitchen area and the screen separating the diners from the corridor and kitchen smells. I’ve just realised I need to add the handrail along the corridor, which I’ll do next whilst priming the brass and waiting for the primer to dry…

Nigel

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James Spooner

James Spooner

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Some more progress this morning. Plasticard has been cut to make the floor, the seats have been painted, handrails fitted in the corridor and the partitions folded and painted. I’m now waiting for the partition paint to dry but will start on making up some tables for the diners…

Nigel


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James Spooner

James Spooner

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A little progress in that the kitchen partitions are all now filed down to the right height (to compensate for me putting a 20thou plasticard floor in) and all the brass partitions now fit snugly in place. I have also entered into email correspondence with Paul at FK3D prints (the company who 3D printed the seats as well as ex GER bogies, which are really stunning, a photo is attached of one of his bogies) to see what he is able to in terms of 3D printing some tables with cutlery and crockery on them. I’m keeping my fingers crossed at the moment because the dining saloon windows are quite open and would benefit from the extra detail. Against that, because the kitchen is hidden behind frosted glass, I won’t be adding any detail in there at all, simply because it won’t be seen. I have got as far as I can until I know whether Paul can help with the tables and settings but a couple of photos attached of the current state of play…

Nigel

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James Spooner

James Spooner

Western Thunderer
I had an inspiring weekend visiting Uckfield on the Saturday (and getting some very helpful scenic advice from @Flaxfield), then helping out on the EMGS stand at Poole on Sunday (where the stand was next to @Quintus’s Cwm Caradoc). Thus fortified I have hit the modelling bench with renewed determination.

Back in post #806 in July I left the newly converted J69 in a state of limbo as I tried to find a loco I could renumber 68535 to. I failed. A good search of the RCTS green book and then Yeadon’s showed that nothing existed in East Anglia in the 1950’s that exactly matched the Accurascale depiction of 68535. The nearest was 68499, but that was Westinghouse and vacuum fitted.

A dig through my box of bits revealed a suitable Markits Westo pump (a beautiful turning, I will miss Markits for that sort of thing) so, with heart in mouth I started working on a conversion to 68499. I have now got the loco Westo fitted and now just need to fit the vacuum ejector pipe to the smokebox. I have shaped up a suitable piece of brass wire but am trying to work out a suitable method of adding a collar at the smokebox end to replicate the casting that linked the pipe to the smokebox. A photo of current progress attached.

Nigel


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Tim Lewis

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James Spooner said:
I had an inspiring weekend visiting Uckfield on the Saturday (and getting some very helpful scenic advice from @Flaxfield), then helping out on the EMGS stand at Poole on Sunday (where the stand was next to @Quintus’s Cwm Caradoc). Thus fortified I have hit the modelling bench with renewed determination.

Back in post #806 in July I left the newly converted J69 in a state of limbo as I tried to find a loco I could renumber 68535 to. I failed. A good search of the RCTS green book and then Yeadon’s showed that nothing existed in East Anglia in the 1950’s that exactly matched the Accurascale depiction of 68535. The nearest was 68499, but that was Westinghouse and vacuum fitted.

A dig through my box of bits revealed a suitable Markits Westo pump (a beautiful turning, I will miss Markits for that sort of thing) so, with heart in mouth I started working on a conversion to 68499. I have now got the loco Westo fitted and now just need to fit the vacuum ejector pipe to the smokebox. I have shaped up a suitable piece of brass wire but am trying to work out a suitable method of adding a collar at the smokebox end to replicate the casting that linked the pipe to the smokebox. A photo of current progress attached.

Nigel


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I'm away from the relevant information at the moment, but wasn't 68499 one of those transferred to Scotland to work the Lauder branch (with empty side tanks but towing a tender)?
 
James Spooner

James Spooner

Western Thunderer
Tim Lewis said:
I'm away from the relevant information at the moment, but wasn't 68499 one of those transferred to Scotland to work the Lauder branch (with empty side tanks but towing a tender)?
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According to Yeadon’s it was based briefly at Stratford during the summer of 1955 before going to Kings Lynn that September. It stayed in the Lynn area until November 1960. 68492 and 68511 were photographed with the tenders in Scotland by Dr I Allen.

Nigel
 
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