7mm Transfers for GWR wagons in red or grey liveries during the Edwardian period.

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
We are painting some brass kits for GW wagons from the Dean and Churchward eras before WW1, the time has come to think about purchase of transfers. We are aware of transfers from HMRS, POWsides, WEP (now Walsall Models) and Railtec - are there any other sources?

Not having used transfers before, anyone wish to make recommendations or caveats on products from the above suppliers?

Thank you, Graham
 

Overseer

Western Thunderer
We are painting some brass kits for GW wagons from the Dean and Churchward eras before WW1, the time has come to think about purchase of transfers. We are aware of transfers from HMRS, POWsides, WEP (now Walsall Models) and Railtec - are there any other sources?

Not having used transfers before, anyone wish to make recommendations or caveats on products from the above suppliers?

Thank you, Graham
Fox Transfers GWR Freight Vehicle General Pack - REVISED is what you need.

Just beaten to it by @PaxtonP4. Slaters are good as well. I would keep away from Pressfix/Methfix from HMRS - too thick and tend to curl and adhesive unreliable.
 

magmouse

Western Thunderer
Slater's does water-slide GW transfers as does Fox.

Also Peco, for their ex Webster kits.


I'm skeptical about the shape of the large letter "G" - the curve should not be thinner top and boots than it is at the left-hand side. The smaller "G.W.R" for pre 1904 look good, as do the italics texts (though there is a lot of variation on the prototype, so you could have a range of styles of this and be equally right/wrong).

I would keep away from Pressfix/Methfix from HMRS - too thick and tend to curl and adhesive unreliable.

I've used both successfully, though I prefer Methfix for ease of adjustment before committing the transfer to a position. The HMRS sheet provides a very large range of specialist texts which is both a benefit and a disbenefit - you get things you can't get anywhere else, but you pay for things you'll never use. Beware of methfix on acrylic paints, which can be softened by the meths/water solution.

Small texts on the HMRS transfers can be a bit over-scale. This may apply to others but I haven't noticed it specifically. There is a perennial problem for Edwardian modellers (or perhaps modellers of the Edwardian period) that you sometimes need to fit a text into a narrow space, where on the prototype the painter simply squashed everything up. Typical cases are fitting 6 digit running numbers on the end of general merchandise wagons between the corner plate and stanchion (there's a reason I have wagons with running numbers 7460 and 41211...) and any text that has to fit the panels on an iron mink. I am about to have that issue with the Accursed Serpent, described elsewhere on the forum.

As a general comment, the shade of white varies between manufacturers, from a creamy white from the HMRS to a bluish white from Railtec, with points in between. Beware of mixing and matching from different ranges to meet your needs. It's possible if you are going to weather the wagon, but even then some care is needed.

Nick.
 

Overseer

Western Thunderer
@magmouse, I don't disagree that the Fox version of the large GW lettering doesn't exactly match any prototype photo I have seen, although there was variety in the letter forms painted on the various wagons. To my eye the left hand part of the G was thicker than the top and bottom, but the Fox version is somewhat exaggerated. The Slaters version is also not perfect, I think the G is a bit too circular in form. Both the Fox and Slaters W's are probably also a fraction too thick. The other suppliers will have more versions of their interpretation of the GW letter shapes.

slaters gw.jpg
 

magmouse

Western Thunderer
Yes, the difficulty is that we are trying to assess a variety of interpretations by manufacturers against a variety of lettering on the prototype. At some point, it’s going to come down to a subjective sense of what feels right, or at least what feels acceptable.

Nick.
 

Dog Star

Western Thunderer
@magmouse, I don't disagree that the Fox version of the large GW lettering doesn't exactly match any prototype photo I have seen, although there was variety in the letter forms painted on the various wagons. To my eye the left hand part of the G was thicker than the top and bottom, but the Fox version is somewhat exaggerated. The Slaters version is also not perfect, I think the G is a bit too circular in form. Both the Fox and Slaters W's are probably also a fraction too thick. The other suppliers will have more versions of their interpretation of the GW letter shapes.
Fraser,

Who supplies the sheet which is pictured in your posr?

Rgds, Graham
 

Jordan or Plymouth Mad

Mid-Western Thunderer
Yes, the difficulty is that we are trying to assess a variety of interpretations by manufacturers against a variety of lettering on the prototype. At some point, it’s going to come down to a subjective sense of what feels right, or at least what feels acceptable.

Nick.
I'm currently getting the same issue with decals for an American boxcar, from a reputable decal specialist, yet their decals are a bit oversize compared to the prototype. My best option is going to be not putting the model & the prototype photographs next to each other. :confused: :rolleyes:
 
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