Tales from The Room of Doom. Dipping a toe in various bucolic backwaters.

alastairq

Western Thunderer
TT120, and it's 'lack' of popularity?
I am superficially amazed they didn't stick with 3 mm- foot. [Is that 1:100?]
Despite the narrower gauge....[Is it any worse than OO gauge, at the end of the day?]
 

simond

Western Thunderer
TT120, and it's 'lack' of popularity?
I am superficially amazed they didn't stick with 3 mm- foot. [Is that 1:100?]
Despite the narrower gauge....[Is it any worse than OO gauge, at the end of the day?]
Well, a foot is 304.8mm, so no, it’s not (precisely) 1:100.

its a very great shame that all these incorrect gauge-scale relationships exist. I know some of the background (and our clockwork / coarse scale correspondents are painting an interesting historical picture as their layouts are built) and the technical challenges of packing springs in boilers, and the need for settrack to work on the dining room floor, but it’s still a shame.

At least the scales could have been sensible! Any metric country should use the 1, 2, 5, 10 rule and decades thereof, and (ex-) imperial counties should stick to sensible fractions of an inch to the foot. Which prawn came up with 1/43.5429 for pity’s sake?
 

Simon H

Western Thunderer
TT120, and it's 'lack' of popularity?
I am superficially amazed they didn't stick with 3 mm- foot. [Is that 1:100?]
Despite the narrower gauge....[Is it any worse than OO gauge, at the end of the day?]
Hi Alastair,
Hornby also have the Arnold TT range, and making the new British TT compatible with that and other continental TT probably makes more commercial sense than making it compatible with the old TT-3, which ceased to be manufactured around 60 years previously and I suspect would struggle with modern track.
The Class 66 is a case in point...they're all over the place here, and seem to be pretty widespread on the continent as well, so one model, albeit with detail and livery differences, covers both markets.
I've got an Arnold TT Kö (tiny diesel shunter) which looks good and runs superbly, and while I've no interest in the British range, the Peco track is excellent. If the British TT is equivalent in quality to the continental, and Hornby and others continue to launch relevant items, perhaps it'll become more popular?
Cheers, Simon.
 
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Flaxfield

Western Thunderer
Morning all,

Interesting to see the views of others on TT120.

Hi Alastair,
Hornby also have the Arnold TT range, and making the new British TT compatible with that and other continental TT probably makes more commercial sense than making it compatible with the old TT-3, which ceased to be manufactured around 60 years previously and I suspect would struggle with modern track.
I've got an Arnold TT Kö (tiny diesel shunter) which looks good and runs superbly, and while I've no interest in the British range, the Peco track is excellent.
Cheers, Simon.

Spot on, Simon. It would have made no sense at all for Hornby to replicate the 'error' of the old 'British TT'.
I have no interest in TT120 but the Continental models are very good. I did consider going that way when setting out to buy a few Czech bits and bobs but decided to go HO as I preferred the size of the bigger scale.

However, there is a much more animated debate on the pros and cons of TT120 on RmWeb ( no surprises there! ) so perhaps we can now move on here.

Rob
 

Flaxfield

Western Thunderer
In other news, there seemingly a bit of 'movement' in the current bout of modelling constipation.

A revisit of the Blackwater Pier project ended in disaster, ultimately causing the demise of the board.

However, it got the thoughts going in the right direction and this is where we are currently at.

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Very simple indeed but the operation is secondary to the scenic treatment. Grey areas will be a water feature.

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It's more a working or 'aggravated' diorama due to the simplicity of the track plan but I think it offers some really nice views through the trees, of which I think I'm three or possibly four short.

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The period, location or company is not settled on as of yet but it's currently a toss up between pre- WW1 SE&CR or 1930s Ex- GER.

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The next job will be to glue the MDF down over the next couple of evenings.

Rob
 

76043

Western Thunderer
Hi Rob,
Have you ditched the Peco baseboard idea?

I don't go to RMweb, so if you posted news there I wouldn't pick it up as I can't be bothered to learn the navigation of RMweb. Maybe I should ask Ai to learn it for me.
Tony
 

Flaxfield

Western Thunderer
Hi Rob,
Have you ditched the Peco baseboard idea?

I don't go to RMweb, so if you posted news there I wouldn't pick it up as I can't be bothered to learn the navigation of RMweb. Maybe I should ask Ai to learn it for me.
Tony


Hi Tony.

Yes, pretty much. I'm now firmly of the opinion that Peco haven't given this competition sufficient thought. I have had a conversation about a week ago with someone at Peco and whilst I won't elaborate on what was a private conversation, I came away from it no longer wishing to complete an entry..it frankly seemed a pointless exercise.

There is also the issue of communication. Several on RmWeb have emailed Peco raising queries and have received no response. I have also raised an email query with them and made mention of the fact that there is a degree of disquiet over their failure to respond to emails. That was two weeks ago and I'm yet to get a response.

So, I now have two boards set aside for a future project and will be concentrating my efforts on the current watery idea.

Rob
 

76043

Western Thunderer
Thanks Rob, certainly they haven't thought through rolling stock and the post side of it. My view is that my entry won't have any rolling stock on it anyway and that my entry is not going win as it's not interesting/different/groundbreaking enough so I won't need to post it.

I'm still carrying on though as I work better to deadlines and I would like to end up with second exhibition layout sooner rather than later.
Cheers
Tony
 

Marc Dobson

Western Thunderer
Rob that reminds me I need send you a link for the other two grounded GER vans. Can you pm me you contact details again I seem to have lost them.
Marc
 
In other news, there seemingly a bit of 'movement' in the current bout of modelling constipation.

A revisit of the Blackwater Pier project ended in disaster, ultimately causing the demise of the board.

However, it got the thoughts going in the right direction and this is where we are currently at.

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Very simple indeed but the operation is secondary to the scenic treatment. Grey areas will be a water feature.

View attachment 241943

It's more a working or 'aggravated' diorama due to the simplicity of the track plan but I think it offers some really nice views through the trees, of which I think I'm three or possibly four short.

View attachment 241944

The period, location or company is not settled on as of yet but it's currently a toss up between pre- WW1 SE&CR or 1930s Ex- GER.

View attachment 241945

The next job will be to glue the MDF down over the next couple of evenings.

Rob
Are those the ruins from the pecoboo 200 board?
 

Alan

Western Thunderer
Quie a few years ago I WROTE to Peco and had a reply within a week and I have always had a good response from phone calls.
 
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