Jordan or Plymouth Mad
Mid-Western Thunderer
Won't make the Show, but will look out for that issue!!
Today's plasticard wrangling...
A pair of Lima 12t vans with all the side detail taken right back, then overlaid with new sides and doors in Evergreen #2067 Car Siding. Futher detailing in microstrip. Ex-LMS d2039 and ex-LNER dig 116 Not intended to be 100% accurate, more to give some noticably different vans to run among all the BR standards.
There's a Vanwide also underway, just drafting the doors up to be cut on the Silhouette.
A pair of Lima 12t vans with all the side detail taken right back, then overlaid with new sides and doors in Evergreen #2067 Car Siding. Futher detailing in microstrip. Ex-LMS d2039 and ex-LNER dig 116 Not intended to be 100% accurate, more to give some noticably different vans to run among all the BR standards.
There's a Vanwide also underway, just drafting the doors up to be cut on the Silhouette.
Vanwide close to completion. Annoyingly, I accidentally let a drop of Revell Contacta fall on one side, so have added a 10 thou patch repair, as was often seen on the prototype (it's on the other side)
Also closer to completion is a scratchbuilt Lowmac, from Evergreen 4mm channel and assorted plastic sheet and strip. This may get a cradle to take ISO 20ft containers, or maybe just a suitable vehicle (and I'll make another for use as an ISO conflat conversion)
These, along with the earlier pair of vans and a LMS 42ft bogie CCT (scratch body on a shortened Rivarossi chassis) are soon for priming and paint.
Also closer to completion is a scratchbuilt Lowmac, from Evergreen 4mm channel and assorted plastic sheet and strip. This may get a cradle to take ISO 20ft containers, or maybe just a suitable vehicle (and I'll make another for use as an ISO conflat conversion)
These, along with the earlier pair of vans and a LMS 42ft bogie CCT (scratch body on a shortened Rivarossi chassis) are soon for priming and paint.
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
DB Fährbootwagen are/were available from Liliput and Roco - which you cab run on a British HO layout. 
Indeed, I have a DB ferry low stake wagon already running on Dounreay and am keeping tabs on a Tcefs van from Modelbahn Union - available in DB brown and DB blue Transfesa liveriesDB Fährbootwagen are/were available from Liliput and Roco - which you cab run on a British HO layout.
Güterwagen Tcefs H0 | MU Spur H0 | MU Exklusiv
Güterwagen Tcefs 845 - Das Vorbild:Um den Transport von Güterwagen im Verkehr nach Großbritannien zu erleichtern, waren Güterwagen erforderlich, die dem kleineren britischen Lichtraumprofil entsprachen. Zusätzlich zu den vertrauten Druckluftbremsen mussten sie auch über das in Großbritannien gebräuc
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Found another spare Lima chassis in the H0 stashbox and decided I needed another ply van, so scratched up a diagram 195 12t van, LNER clasp VB.
Body is 40 thou sheet, with assorted styrene. strip and section. A enjoyable hour or so on this one. Chassis modded with cobbled-together bits from the scratchbox, still some minor bits to do, then a blast of red primer.
Oh... And a roof, obviously.
Body is 40 thou sheet, with assorted styrene. strip and section. A enjoyable hour or so on this one. Chassis modded with cobbled-together bits from the scratchbox, still some minor bits to do, then a blast of red primer.
Oh... And a roof, obviously.
Lacathedrale
New Member
@cloggydog I think this is genuinely one of the most interesting threads and subjects I've seen in years, thank you so much. I would love to see the layout in wider scope - whether by exhibition footage, scenic photographs, etc. please?
Thanks, it's been a fun project, both layout and the ongoing stock builds.
Dounreay has it's own layout thread here: Dounreay - a Far North micro terminus in H0
I'll do my best to add more photos of the layout in there soon.
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
My dad managed to capture at least two Fährbootwagen in this photo of 5018 St Mawes Castle at Reading in 1963. One FS and the other behind the loco could be SNCB, SNCF or FS - I can't quite make it pout but is does have the DB white corner markings.
Years ago I did convert the Electrotren Schiebewandwagen Hbis - Transfesa van (1481K) to British HO loading gauge. http://www.euram-online.co.uk/railways/euro/transfesa/transfesa.htm
Years ago I did convert the Electrotren Schiebewandwagen Hbis - Transfesa van (1481K) to British HO loading gauge. http://www.euram-online.co.uk/railways/euro/transfesa/transfesa.htm
For Poison Street Parcels, a suitable shunting loco is required. Luckily, Roco have me covered with their NS 600 (nee BR D3/8A, TOPS class 11).
It needs Anglicising by removal of some NS-specific detail and replacing, plus a rework of a couple of areas that (imho) Roco didn’t get quite right.
It's a Mk1 Roco, so has the over-wide cranks, forcing the rods out about 1mm too far either side, but I'm leaving those well alone and will accept the compromise.
NS lights removed and holes plugged with plastic rod, cut flush.
Superfluous handrail and step on cabside removed. Ladders off.
I wasn’t convinced by Roco’s under-sized rad grille, so removed it and fabricated a new one from microstrip.
I also widened the roof exhaust panel.
Roco’s buffers are quite long, these have been replaced with MJTs 4mm 1ft8in Self-contained wagon buffers and I’ve swapped out the couplings for Kadee #158s in #242 draft boxes, slid into the orginal coupler mounts.
Decals on order from Railtec, it’ll be finished as Bescot’s 12112 in grotty green/wasps.
It needs Anglicising by removal of some NS-specific detail and replacing, plus a rework of a couple of areas that (imho) Roco didn’t get quite right.
It's a Mk1 Roco, so has the over-wide cranks, forcing the rods out about 1mm too far either side, but I'm leaving those well alone and will accept the compromise.
NS lights removed and holes plugged with plastic rod, cut flush.
Superfluous handrail and step on cabside removed. Ladders off.
I wasn’t convinced by Roco’s under-sized rad grille, so removed it and fabricated a new one from microstrip.
I also widened the roof exhaust panel.
Roco’s buffers are quite long, these have been replaced with MJTs 4mm 1ft8in Self-contained wagon buffers and I’ve swapped out the couplings for Kadee #158s in #242 draft boxes, slid into the orginal coupler mounts.
Decals on order from Railtec, it’ll be finished as Bescot’s 12112 in grotty green/wasps.
Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
I converted one of these NS 500/600 to a BR(S) Ashford built TOPS class 12 variant many moons ago.
Except - I altered the roof panel widths, added the cab outer rear supports, made new side equipment cabinets and removed and filled the small panel under the front cab windows. It was re-wheeled with Alan Gibson Bulleid wheels and fitted with SR pattern buffers.
Except - I altered the roof panel widths, added the cab outer rear supports, made new side equipment cabinets and removed and filled the small panel under the front cab windows. It was re-wheeled with Alan Gibson Bulleid wheels and fitted with SR pattern buffers.
Thanks Dave, that's useful. I've now altered the battery boxes on 12112 and will have a look at the cab front panels next .
I can ignore the cab end supports, as 12112 didn't get them (afaik) and whilst the bonnet roof on yours looks better, I'm leaving alone for the moment due to a pressing show deadline. That said, I may well revisit the model at a future stage.
I can ignore the cab end supports, as 12112 didn't get them (afaik) and whilst the bonnet roof on yours looks better, I'm leaving alone for the moment due to a pressing show deadline. That said, I may well revisit the model at a future stage.
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I was pointed in the direction of Inoxion Models, a range of 5 different 3D-printed 'BR' 12t vans available in various scales from N to O, including H0.
I ordered the GW planked and LMS ply to see what they were like. Arrived within days, packed in a stout box, the prints on their baseplate to better protection in transit.
The prints are crisp, clean and detail is nicely done. Assembly is straightforward, my usual Liliput 10.5mm wheels on 24.5mm pin-points drop straight in and are free-running.
There are some dimensional/shape issues (GW van a scale foot short, LM van a mm over length and a mm under height), but as cheap 'train fillers' they'll just about pass muster once painted.
I ordered the GW planked and LMS ply to see what they were like. Arrived within days, packed in a stout box, the prints on their baseplate to better protection in transit.
The prints are crisp, clean and detail is nicely done. Assembly is straightforward, my usual Liliput 10.5mm wheels on 24.5mm pin-points drop straight in and are free-running.
There are some dimensional/shape issues (GW van a scale foot short, LM van a mm over length and a mm under height), but as cheap 'train fillers' they'll just about pass muster once painted.
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pacific231g
New Member
Hi Dave
Rather belated reply but I'm pretty certain that the wagon behind St. Mawes Castle is an SNCF couvert (van). The wagon number seems to have four letters in the top row. SNCB used the B inside an oval logo whereas SNCF just used those four letters.
The white corner markings were not specific to DB but were used internationally before (and possibly after) wagon markings changed to the current UIC computerised system in the 1960s. The marking on the corner of both wagons - a rectangle with a downward pointing triangle beneath- indicate a wagon admissable into international traffic and fitted with a passenger/goods mode valve for the brake* that allows it to be operated in passenger trains. The anchor is self evident.
What is also interesting about this train is that although the FS wagon is a type (Fs1091 xxx) with a brakeman's hut commonly used for agricultural products and so marked in Italian, English and French, both it and so far as I can see the SNCF wagon, have BMC labels on their sides. and are behind a train of car flats carrying Minis. These were exported in large numbers into both France and Italy so, given that it's Reading, I'd hazard that this is a train coming from Cowley with an export load of minis and the vans presumably carrying spare parts or, if I was being cynical the components thaty had been left off the cars on the production line. Possibly, for the Italian wagon, a return load for a wagon that had brought produce from Italy. I don't though think the cars themselves crossed the channel on the train ferry
*This was a common feature on the Westinghouse braking system of goods wagons that could be conveyed in passenger and parcels trains as well as goods trains. I'm not sure what the differences was but it may have had something to do with the speed the brakes came on.
Tim Hale
Western Thunderer
Hello,
Found elsewhere
I've found 3D files for free download in the vastness of the internet, which some of you may still be familiar with.
Specifically, they're various versions of British Railways door-to-door containers. I printed a long and a short container with wooden walls
, as they were occasionally seen on the continent. A picture can be seen, for example, in a book by SC, Fritz Willke, photographer and archivist. It shows the short version loaded
onto a Belgian wagon in Stuttgart.
As I said, I've printed a few containers in H0 and find them quite appealing. I made the lettering for the early 1960s myself. The containers are in 1:148, so you'll have to scale them up accordingly.
Perhaps someone would like to print some themselves?!
Here's the link to the models:
[ www.thingiverse.com ]
Found elsewhere
I've found 3D files for free download in the vastness of the internet, which some of you may still be familiar with.
Specifically, they're various versions of British Railways door-to-door containers. I printed a long and a short container with wooden walls
, as they were occasionally seen on the continent. A picture can be seen, for example, in a book by SC, Fritz Willke, photographer and archivist. It shows the short version loaded
onto a Belgian wagon in Stuttgart.
As I said, I've printed a few containers in H0 and find them quite appealing. I made the lettering for the early 1960s myself. The containers are in 1:148, so you'll have to scale them up accordingly.
Perhaps someone would like to print some themselves?!
Here's the link to the models:
[ www.thingiverse.com ]
Some recent builds, cut'n'shuts and progress:
The Ferry van now has its side and end bracing, vent covers (drawn and cut on the Silhouette), underframe trussing and door runners. Brake gear, buffers, roof and the final detailing to add. Decals from Railtec already in hand.
I cut'n'shut a pair of Lima 20t BR brake vans into a LNER Toad E shorty, making use of a rather battered and tatty example rather than consigning it to the bin.
And I spent an enjoyable evening at the club recently scratchbuilding a Bogie Bolster D from Evergreen car siding, strip and section (note to self... buy shares in Evergreen!). This will have plateframe bogies - layered plasticard inners and my own cast resin sideframes) and be finished in unfitted grey.
The Ferry van now has its side and end bracing, vent covers (drawn and cut on the Silhouette), underframe trussing and door runners. Brake gear, buffers, roof and the final detailing to add. Decals from Railtec already in hand.
I cut'n'shut a pair of Lima 20t BR brake vans into a LNER Toad E shorty, making use of a rather battered and tatty example rather than consigning it to the bin.
And I spent an enjoyable evening at the club recently scratchbuilding a Bogie Bolster D from Evergreen car siding, strip and section (note to self... buy shares in Evergreen!). This will have plateframe bogies - layered plasticard inners and my own cast resin sideframes) and be finished in unfitted grey.
Heather Kay
Western Thunderer
That Toad conversion: *chef's kiss*
There's some what I like to call proper modelling going on here. Fab!
There's some what I like to call proper modelling going on here. Fab!
Thanks - it's not perfect (I put the stove chimney on the wrong side) and I'll probably revisit the lower stepboard (a carry-over from Lima's GW Toad chassis moulding and therefore too high, it should align with the bottom of tge axleboxes) before too long.