Monks Ferry: a layout for the Grandchildren.
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Roger Pound
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I would recommend acrylics too - all the shades I mentioned in #515 are acrylic. Much easier to work with as far as I am concerned.
Roger.
Roger.
Roger Pound
Western Thunderer
I would ecommend acrylics too - all the shades I mentioned in
jonte
Western Thunderer
I agree with @simond: smashing job all round, so thanks for sharing!
Funnily enough, the reason many of my tinlets have ‘gone off’ is because, like your good self, I’ve been using acrylics in an airbrush for many applications in recent years, although I still prefer to do washes in enamels as I find they ‘flow’ better than a mix of acrylics and IPA, allwithout disturbing the coat below it; but that’s just me……..
Also, as I’ve still so,e manhandling of the track to do whilst laying it, I trust to enamels for sticking strength which was another pointer.
Perhaps I should also mention that I’m going to go for a ‘darker’ shade of colouring on the track which I find helps to hide many of it’s shortcomings.
Thanks once again, Martyn,for your interest and advice.
Jon
jonte
Western Thunderer
Thanks, Roger
I’m in total agreement re the use of acrylics, but you’ll probably note my excuses for enamels in my reply above to Martyn
I hope it doesn’t end up as a typical ‘told you so’ exercise
Ah well, I always end up doing stuff the hard way
Jon
simond
Western Thunderer
I struggle with acrylics. I think it’s an age thing. I learnt to weather with Humbrol and loads of thinners, and I was confident in having a go.
But acrylics are different. Not better or worse, just different, and I’m older, busier (though the kids have grown up and left home so I’m not quite sure why) and maybe I don’t learn as quickly as I did thirty years ago…
I’ll get there. Just not today…
But acrylics are different. Not better or worse, just different, and I’m older, busier (though the kids have grown up and left home so I’m not quite sure why) and maybe I don’t learn as quickly as I did thirty years ago…
I’ll get there. Just not today…
jonte
Western Thunderer
Due to the kind interest of my fellow WT-ers, thought I’d show you the results of an evening painting a base coat onto the rails of all the points:
Not the best representation of the colour shown under the small lamp I’m using out in my workshop, as it’s a darker shade in reality, formed from equal amounts of the two greys mentioned earlier, the no.31 again in equal measure, with two parts of the brown shade, no.113. It’s just a base which will receive washes of black and Phoenixes Rusty Rails to take the samey (I hope) look off it, like the rails at W’loo station. They’d look better with dry-brushing of the RR, but with the amount of track to do, the number of brushes required would break the bank!
Unfortunately, I’m going to have to clean the rails……again……..looks like Ive used up all my smaller brushes (apart from the very fine, but I’d be there for hours!) so had to plump for the smallest I could find, which frankly wasn’t small enough for the job.
We go on.
jonte
Not the best representation of the colour shown under the small lamp I’m using out in my workshop, as it’s a darker shade in reality, formed from equal amounts of the two greys mentioned earlier, the no.31 again in equal measure, with two parts of the brown shade, no.113. It’s just a base which will receive washes of black and Phoenixes Rusty Rails to take the samey (I hope) look off it, like the rails at W’loo station. They’d look better with dry-brushing of the RR, but with the amount of track to do, the number of brushes required would break the bank!
Unfortunately, I’m going to have to clean the rails……again……..looks like Ive used up all my smaller brushes (apart from the very fine, but I’d be there for hours!) so had to plump for the smallest I could find, which frankly wasn’t small enough for the job.
We go on.
jonte
Roger Pound
Western Thunderer
You are certainly achieving the look you want with your work, the effect is excellent. Track painting is probabaly the second most boring thing in railway modelling that one has to do. Well done, my old mate ! By the way, I've also got two old biscuit tins full of Humbrol and other tinlets in various stages of deterioration.......... . It must be yet another age thing, or just that I find acrylics far easier to deal with........
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Roger.
! By the way, I've also got two old biscuit tins full of Humbrol and other tinlets in various stages of deterioration.......... . It must be yet another age thing, or just that I find acrylics far easier to deal with........ !Roger.
jonte
Western Thunderer
You are certainly achieving the look you want with your work, the effect is excellent. Track painting is probabaly the second most boring thing in railway modelling that one has to do. Well done, my old mate
Roger.
I certainly hope so, Roger.
Many thanks,
Jon
Lyndhurstman
Western Thunderer
Hello JonYou are certainly achieving the look you want with your work, the effect is excellent. Track painting is probabaly the second most boring thing in railway modelling that one has to do. Well done, my old mate
Roger.
That’s really very lovely. Well done, and best wishes for your external travails.
Cheers
Jan
jonte
Western Thunderer
simond
Western Thunderer
Jon,When I went for a pre-op last week, I had to undergo an ECG which involved removing my shirt to attach the electrodes. I’ve no idea what was going through the mind of the nurse conducting when she saw several deep scratches and bruising to my chest and upper abdomen
I‘m on the boat at the moment.
After installing some wiring, which involves contortions that a February, skiing, shoulder injury does not appreciate, I wholly understand your PoV. I’ve managed to avoid laceration, but there may be a bruise or two. Job done however. I do wish the designers at Fairline had thought about maintenance and upgrades, it’s so much harder than it needs to be!
Keep up the good work,
Simon
Lyndhurstman
Western Thunderer
Hello Jon
Thank you. Plodding on, thanks. Getting used to being my own boss (for some of the time, at least
)By the by, you and @simond can complain, but if you haven’t changed a front headlight bulb in a 57 plate Renault Modus, you’ve barely scratched your limbs relevant surfaces!
)Cheers
Jan
jonte
Western Thunderer
Thanks for your kind words of encouragement and interest as always, Simon. Much appreciated, especially when tasks get onerous and repetitive; hardly surprising with a train set of this size…..thank goodness for Smooth Radio.
I can empathise with your frustration with the boat, especially being tall and not very agile in latter years. Indeed, manufacturers seem to put ease of maintenance last on their list when designing/building which I expect is exacerbated with larger motor vessels such as Fairline (you must be the richest person I know
).Funnily enough, my wife and I have both been under the weather of late no doubt picked up while making hospital visits (the award visited has been locked down of late for the usual viral outbreak), so feeling a little better and relishing a spot of fresh air, we popped to the beach on the way home from doing a spot of light shopping. Looking longingly out to sea, I imagined myself in a small sailing boat (perhaps even a Wayfarer
) heading out into the beyond in the direction of Anglesey, hoping to make the tide and the pub before closing. Then the realisation of boat owning brought me back down to Earth……on the odd occasion something didn’t break, we thanked our lucky stars! Then there was wind and tide to be considered, seldom in our favour which is why we ended our sailing pastime on a lake…….. and which is why it will remain a dream. What was that saying about boat ownership?Incidentally, with your mention of a shoulder injury: I’m due for a shoulder op hence the pre-op which will put me out of action, although I’m not that active to start with.
I’m gradually falling to bits.
Hope the shoulder improves soon.
Jon
jonte
Western Thunderer
57 plate…….?Hello Jon
Thank you. Plodding on, thanks. Getting used to being my own boss (for some of the time, at least
By the by, you and @simond can complain, but if you haven’t changed a front headlight bulb in a 57 plate Renault Modus, you’ve barely scratched your limbs relevant surfaces!
Cheers
Jan
Luxury!
Seriously though, Jan, sounds a right pain; literally, by the sound of it!
Glad you’re gradually settling in to retirement. Some of us take to it more readily than others. Over the years, I’ve bumped into former colleagues who, after only six weeks or so, had had enough and applied for a job.
I seemed a natural by all accounts
Good to hear,
Jon
jonte
Western Thunderer
Just as a footnote to yesterday’s submissions on colour mixing, I eventually decided to go with the browner shades of sleeper colour, opting for the no. 113 shade mentioned. Here it as a refresher:
The reason I’ve posted so soon, is that on mixing, it seemed a little cool (anaemic even?) and needed warming up so to speak, thus I added a more copious amount of 113. This made it a little too brown, thus I threw in a small amount of a navy blue colour (a dark grey with a Bluey shade) no. 77, for no other reason than it was to hand, followed by a couple of spoonfuls of Matt black (no. 33, only I was out of Humbrol so used the Revell equivalent, no.8).
I got lucky, I reckon, as this seemed to make it look more like the grey timbers of these mainline stations onto which such things as brake dust etc had been deposited, so I went ahead. Here’s the result just for your info, again shown under the lamp I’m using:
I think it should pass especially with a wash or two of whatever comes to hand.
Thanks again for your interest and likes.
jonte
PS This is the colour of the rail in natural light shown on a diamond crossing, which will receive a darker wash followed by a wash of Phoenix Rusty Rails, then toned down with a black wash:
The reason I’ve posted so soon, is that on mixing, it seemed a little cool (anaemic even?) and needed warming up so to speak, thus I added a more copious amount of 113. This made it a little too brown, thus I threw in a small amount of a navy blue colour (a dark grey with a Bluey shade) no. 77, for no other reason than it was to hand, followed by a couple of spoonfuls of Matt black (no. 33, only I was out of Humbrol so used the Revell equivalent, no.8).
I got lucky, I reckon, as this seemed to make it look more like the grey timbers of these mainline stations onto which such things as brake dust etc had been deposited, so I went ahead. Here’s the result just for your info, again shown under the lamp I’m using:
I think it should pass especially with a wash or two of whatever comes to hand.
Thanks again for your interest and likes.
jonte
PS This is the colour of the rail in natural light shown on a diamond crossing, which will receive a darker wash followed by a wash of Phoenix Rusty Rails, then toned down with a black wash:
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simond
Western Thunderer
Thanks Jon, the shoulder is a pain, but one grins…. It’s made a recent improvement, and another few months should see it sorted. The loss of strength is a surprise, Exercise called for I guess. It was excruciating, now only painful…Thanks for your kind words of encouragement and interest as always, Simon. Much appreciated, especially when tasks get onerous and repetitive; hardly surprising with a train set of this size…..thank goodness for Smooth Radio.
I can empathise with your frustration with the boat, especially being tall and not very agile in latter years. Indeed, manufacturers seem to put ease of maintenance last on their list when designing/building which I expect is exacerbated with larger motor vessels such as Fairline (you must be the richest person I know
Funnily enough, my wife and I have both been under the weather of late no doubt picked up while making hospital visits (the award visited has been locked down of late for the usual viral outbreak), so feeling a little better and relishing a spot of fresh air, we popped to the beach on the way home from doing a spot of light shopping. Looking longingly out to sea, I imagined myself in a small sailing boat (perhaps even a Wayfarer
Incidentally, with your mention of a shoulder injury: I’m due for a shoulder op hence the pre-op which will put me out of action, although I’m not that active to start with.
I’m gradually falling to bits.
Hope the shoulder improves soon.
Jon
I too, am slowly, but not slowly enough, falling to bits. I love being out on the sea. And the mental and physical challenges (and those hat MrsD offers when we are safely ensconced within a marina, by means of several mile walks) that it imposes can only be good for the soul, and the body.
jonte
Western Thunderer
Ressaldar
Western Thunderer
Hi Jon,
Best of luck with the shoulder op, the regular raising of an appropriate coloured liquid from north of the border should help with the physio! I am at Clatterbridge tomorrow for a checkup on my twenty five year old replacement hips, been getting a nasty pain on the left hand side lately and have had to resort to using my stick (retained from the original ops) when walking which makes things more bearable.
Best wishes
Mike
Best of luck with the shoulder op, the regular raising of an appropriate coloured liquid from north of the border should help with the physio! I am at Clatterbridge tomorrow for a checkup on my twenty five year old replacement hips, been getting a nasty pain on the left hand side lately and have had to resort to using my stick (retained from the original ops) when walking which makes things more bearable.
Best wishes
Mike