LarryG's loco & coach WB (4mm/00)

[Dave Holt]

Larry, that's a lovely looking coach and a foretaste of your skills, in an era when there were far fewer accurate models and kits about. Indeed, every class of LMS or BR standard loco could be built by hacking a Triang Princess about and adding plasticard or laminated manilla envelope material to make replacement parts. Thank goodness we've moved on from that.
Dave.

 

[LarryG]

I looked into producing that 8-wheel open coach in etched brass back in 2007 but the Fox bogies in my Larriparts range were unobtainable and so was a suitable roof on which to add a clerestory. Like a lot of Midland Railway coaches, they looked nothing without the full panelled livery. In old age, I prefer LMS Stanier designs.

 

[LarryG]

I mentioned earlier that I used Triang CKD roofs in the early 1960s. Amazingly I still have one! It is a shallow eliptical roof as can be seen beside a 'normal' Dart Casting aluminium roof....



I have a use for it on a GWR Dia. E113 corridor brake composite which had a lower than usual elliptical roof and an 8' 6" wide body, if I can find an etch...

 

[Mallard60022]

Afternoon Larry. Apologies for a question out of the blue.
I'm back to interior Coach detailing and wondered what paint(s) you used for that lovely Darkish Wood, slightly gloss panel colour for Vestibules, Bulkheads and often Compartments (or Open) Interiors of (e.g.) Mk1s.
From my brief research, that colour looks fairly common for many BR Days Coaches, including my main Stock of Bulleids, alongside Mk 1s. I'm using Plasticard interiors, either scratch or, Southern Pride bespoke as per model. I prefer Acrylic and would probably hand paint, but happy to be advised about Aerosols and Enamels.
I hope you can answer this? Thanks for your time.
Oh, I should also say it's good to see that you still Coach bash to a superb standard.
Phil

 

[LarryG]

Hi Phil (Mallard). Apologies but I have only just come across your question. I spray interiors with a Halfords Ford colour akin to sand, but I can't say which colour because I binned the empty can in a thoughtless moment. While this 'sand colour was still wet, I lightly wafted over some Halfrods 'Ford Roman Bronze'. So the partitions got more of the darker colour if in LMS Period I stock and less if in Stanier stock. These gloss colours looked okay and gave the appearance of polished veneers.

 

[EHertsGER]

It appears I have acquired W6307W of the batch of diagram E157 discussed at the outset of this post, just in case you wondered where it went!

Best,
Marcus

 

[LarryG]

Hi Marcus, the Dia. E157 was produced for ourselves (Adrian Roland and I), but a few more were built for friends to use up the etches.

 

[timbowales]

Larry, just spent a delightful couple of hours reading this thread from the beginning.
I thought you might like to see the attached photo of a genuine Larriparts unopened bogie kit, price £1.30p! Can you remember what LP11 was?

 

[Mallard60022]

Hi Larry. I just needed to let you know that I have at last acquired one of your 4mm builds.
A Bulleid SK (s1993) in BR Green, built in 1989 for someone, whos name I can't read on the little plate on the UF. Painted by your colleague Mr Lawrence? It was in a collection and the rest were beautiful GWR Centenaries for which I have no use. It was that E bay place but a respected Seller from Ripon in Yorkshire.
It is in perfect condition. I doubt it ever saw layout use? Beautifully built/finished and painted as are/were all your 4 mm items.
This morning I fitted suitable couplings and it runs like a Smooth Snake (but without and wiggle of course).
So, all the best and thank you...all these years later!
Phil

 

[LarryG]

Larry, just spent a delightful couple of hours reading this thread from the beginning.
I thought you might like to see the attached photo of a genuine Larriparts unopened bogie kit, price £1.30p! Can you remember what LP11 was?

Apologies, but I have just come across your post. It looks like an LMS bogie from my first range of around 1982. I produced a range mainly to assist Derek Lawrence, who built the coaches. I sold the lot to Brian Brown at Westward because I didn't have the time to deal with orders.

LarryG

 

[LarryG]

Hi Larry. I just needed to let you know that I have at last acquired one of your 4mm builds.
A Bulleid SK (s1993) in BR Green, built in 1989 for someone, whos name I can't read on the little plate on the UF. Painted by your colleague Mr Lawrence? It was in a collection and the rest were beautiful GWR Centenaries for which I have no use. It was that E bay place but a respected Seller from Ripon in Yorkshire.
It is in perfect condition. I doubt it ever saw layout use? Beautifully built/finished and painted as are/were all your 4 mm items.
This morning I fitted suitable couplings and it runs like a Smooth Snake (but without and wiggle of course).
So, all the best and thank you...all these years later!
Phil

Hi Phil, Thank you. It was Derek Lawrence and his out-builders who built the coaches and I did the painting.

I started producing coaches from my own parts in 2001 and went into full coach production in 2006 to reduce my time working with cellulose.

 

[timbowales]

Apologies, but I have just come across your post. It looks like an LMS bogie from my first range of around 1982. I produced a range mainly to assist Derek Lawrence, who built the coaches. I sold the lot to Brian Brown at Westward because I didn't have the time to deal with orders.

LarryG

Thanks, Larry. I can put it up for sale now as I no longer need it

 

[Mallard60022]

Hi Phil, Thank you. It was Derek Lawrence and his out-builders who built the coaches and I did the painting.

I started producing coaches from my own parts in 2001 and went into full coach production in 2006 to reduce my time working with cellulose.

Ah thanks Larry. Damn fine paint job it was then.
ATB
Phil

 

[Vectispete]

Hi Larry. I just needed to let you know that I have at last acquired one of your 4mm builds.
A Bulleid SK (s1993) in BR Green, built in 1989 for someone, whos name I can't read on the little plate on the UF. Painted by your colleague Mr Lawrence? It was in a collection and the rest were beautiful GWR Centenaries for which I have no use. It was that E bay place but a respected Seller from Ripon in Yorkshire.
It is in perfect condition. I doubt it ever saw layout use? Beautifully built/finished and painted as are/were all your 4 mm items.
This morning I fitted suitable couplings and it runs like a Smooth Snake (but without and wiggle of course).
So, all the best and thank you...all these years later!
Phil

Hi

Just caught up with this thread.

Do you still have the GWR Centenaries? Are you wishing to sell one/some Phil?

Pete

 

[LarryG]

I came across a negative of a 4mm scale LNWR Kings Saloon and wanted to post it in the thread dealing with Lawrence Scale models coaches, however, I could not find it.

The model was built by Lawrence Scale as part of a royal train using etched zinc sides. I painted it and it is seen prior to fitting of an interior and couplings. Photo taken on 8th August 1991...

 

[daifly]

The thread was here

4mm - B.S.L./Phoenix Coach Kits - A Retrospective.

Hands up those who remember the old B.S.L (later Phoenix, not to be confused with Phoenix Precision Paints) Coach kits from yesteryear? No longer available other than secondhand they were simplistic by today’s standards but many modellers used them to provide prototypical trains for their...

www.westernthunder.co.uk

Dave

 

[LarryG]

The BSL ali coach kits were very good for their day although I never likes the clip-on roof idea. Derek L. was wedded to ali construction and eventually bought Westdale's 4mm tooling. He had worked for a company that produced curtain sided trailers where aluminium was a major component.