Breaking Ground - Finescale - of a sort

michael mott

Western Thunderer
What a delightful adventure for all us armchair "supervisors" ....I mean admirers of your wonderful railway that despite your trials and tribulations Pete, will be a lasting testament to your determination and passion for the joy it brings to multiple generations of family.
Michael
 

ovener

Western Thunderer
Yes, it's a joy to read of your adventures, on a scale I wouldn't dare to try and outdoors as well. Thank you sir.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Thank you Michael and Ovener, I'm glad you are enjoying the tale.

I was out of town this afternoon attending a wonderful birthday party for one of my grandchildren. I can't jump about anywhere, let alone in the bouncy castle these days, but I did manage to find a relatively quiet corner in the garden, and get the chance to chat with Rich, (the originator of this thread) and share some interesting thoughts about the railway.

At one point he apologised that as a result of work pressures he was not able to be more involved with it, as he was in the early days.

I pointed out that while the primary purpose might always have been for the benefit of the children, it is gradually, and hopefully getting closer to becoming a vital "chill-out" zone for adults too!
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Apologies for the reporting delay, but I have lately been having problems with my laptop intermittently failing to maintain connection with the network. It is holding out so far this morning - so here goes...

Our garden, and the development of the railway, is a bit like one of those puzzles where there is a single empty space, and the solution requires the use of it to move everything else - albeit in precisely the correct order!

I will be forever grateful to a jolly good friend, and fellow WT member who offered some vital assistance a couple of years ago, and came over with a shovel, barrow, some empty "bulk bags" and lots of energy. I was struggling at that time, and without his help shifting a small mountain of topsoil, the construction of the the loop might even have stalled.

Unfortunately, there was only a single spot available nearer the gate to deposit the arisings, but as a western extension only seemed a distant possibility, and as I had already received various expressions of interest, along with promises of prompt removal, I was not overly concerned. I'm not complaining in any way, being only too painfully aware of the chasm between good intent and reality, but inaction, and those brimmed bags became very much in the way rather sooner than expected!

Great good fortune has smiled however. A delightful young couple have recently moved into a house just up the road, and during a conversation with them it was revealed that the lady is very keen on persuading her husband to build planters and raised beds for growing vegetables! I showed them my two monster accumulations... and within a couple of days it was all gone!

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The above image shows an interim phase, where for just a few hours there was a line of recycled small bags along the path!

Thanks to the combination of luck, determination, good weather and Mr. O., enjoying some time off, works trains have been running daily ever since...

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Providing the impetus and permitting yet more soil shifting!

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I have made a start on cutting the first section of the engine spur, that will at least provide some shunting amusement for visitors before the big push to get the small shed dismantled, turned and reassembled in it's final position.

Meanwhile, Mr. O., has determined to get cracking on with his "Potting shed" improvements - including setting out a new platform surface for the top curve station halt.

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He has already restored a cast iron and timber bench for the main "Lamorna" station, and is in the process of repairing another old one for potential passengers to rest upon here, while they await the arrival of the next train.

Pete.
 
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Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
I forgot to load up Mr. O's platform seat picture before posting earlier.

Preferring not to do myself a mischief again, (!) I have "clocked off" for the day, so here it is:

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A subtle, dark green Hammerite for the ironwork, and nicely varnished hardwood slats fitted with stainless bolts and screws:

Rather a splendid job I hope you would agree?

Pete.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Mr. O. has continued to be very busy this week, and has (nearly) completed the second garden seat, albeit with a missing slat, (a result of an error by the supplier he assures us!) and made grand progress levelling and surfacing the halt platform.

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After wisely taking account of his mum's thoughts on the matter, it was decided to reserve the slightly more comfortable bench for the main station and place the smaller one here.

We mere mortals agree it makes perfect sense of course!

In the meantime, sufficient materials have been gathered, including more bags of ballast, a couple of lengths of timber for sleepers and another batch of PMP fishplates to permit tracklaying on the extension to re commence.

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I only managed to get a single panel finished yesterday though, as Mr. O. required an (unrequested) extra pair of hands laying an additional cable under the roadway!

We live in a terraced property along a privately owned road, and way back in 1988 a Residents Association was formed to raise funds and coordinate the complete renewal of the shabby and crumbling road surface. Part of the specification included laying ceramic pipes under the roadway at intervals to enable individual householders to share and connect services to their sheds or garages on the gardens and allotments opposite... thus avoiding the need to disturb the precious new road at a later date. (Local authorities and utility companies please take note - we are way ahead of you!) I gladly took advantage of the provision, as it coincided with the construction of my own (former) "Art" studio!

Unfortunately, due to the subsequent demise of both the association, and the person responsible for the plans, the precise location and depth of these pipes has since been lost, (OK., we were not quite so clever after all?!) so I could only point Mr. O. in the general direction by memory.

I hope Mr. O. won't mind me pointing out that he is what could be described as one of the "strong and silent type", although the latter is sadly a result of an inherited impediment.

Yesterday, he determined to seek out the aforementioned pipe and lay in a secure coms cable to the Goods/Engine shed and Station buildings. To that end he dug a successfully broad trench on the driveway side, and an equally successful deep hole with an auger behind the dwarf wall in the front garden. His intention was to use my old, redundant intercom wire to pull the new coaxial variety through, and this was the point where my assistance became necessary. Sadly, it turned out that I was not an awful lot of help, as the wire got jammed less that half way into it's journey! After much fumbling, jiggling and faffing about between the pair of us, the recalcitrant cable was freed and finally fed all the way!

The only way to reach the pipe was by kneeling at the top of the trench and bend down, with my head only just above ground level, while Mr. O. was doing likewise on the other side of the road - although he was leaning over the dwarf wall in an even more vulnerable position.

As mentioned, Mr. O. is a man of few words, and even when he does speak, I frequently fail to hear properly or misunderstand him.

At one stage during the manoeuvres I called out:

"Is that far enough?"

"YES!" came a stentorian reply that almost blew me out of the hole!

Mrs. I. says that she thinks we are making way too much of a fuss, when all that is required is a "trumpet thing at either end, and all she would have to do is whisper; The kettles boiled, or dinners ready to summon us!"

Pete.
 

simond

Western Thunderer
Worried that his wife was going deaf, he stood in the lounge and asked “what’s for dinner, dear?”

There was no reply, so he went into the hall and repeated the question.

eventually, he walked up to the kitchen door and asked again.

”For the THIRD TIME, chicken”…
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
That's the one! Nobody at home has so far accused me of "selective hearing", but I guess they are just being too kind?!

I am however coming under increasing verbal pressure to get my act together and finish that extension!

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The above image reveals at least one of the reasons given.

It is admittedly quite a distance to lug, amongst other things, heavy washing baskets, especially on the outward journey when the sheets and towels are still wet!

The flat steel bars for the recessed tram lines in the driveway have been cut to length, (seen on the left in the above) and the aluminium rail in ballast (as you can also see in the foreground) only has a very short, connecting section yet to be laid... but I'm still in a quandary as to the best method of making it all up.

The thickness of the bar, and the intention of setting it in concrete suggests that each length will only require a few simple "ladder rung" sleeper/spacers - mainly to maintain gauge during the packing and pouring phase? They will have to be steel to stand any chance of longer term survival? Welding would be the obvious choice, but in that matter I am completely dependant on the generosity and goodwill of friends or relatives... and I always feel nervous and reluctant about being an imposition.

I suspect that I may be overthinking the problem?

Yesterday afternoon, following yet more cogitation, or rather getting myself into a bit of a tizzy, I eventually decided that the engine spur was still not long enough to accommodate one, (!) so settled down to installing a temporary section of rail from off cuts.

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Shifting the stack of bricks (and all the other stuff) can wait until the big "re-siting operation" that is provisionally scheduled for later this summer.

When that happens, the temporary rail can then be replaced with a full run up to the proposed turntable - and thence the engine shed roads!

Pete.

Edit: Please refer to post #524 for a reminder of the plan!
 
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GrahamMc

Western Thunderer
It is admittedly quite a distance to lug, amongst other things, heavy washing baskets, especially on the outward journey when the sheets and towels are still wet!
Not something I would mention too often otherwise this splendid extension to the national railway network that is deserving of a proper name that includes words such as 'Great' and 'Railway' will forever be known as 'The Washing Line'!
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
This could so easily descend into silliness, which is something that I would be terribly disappointed if it didn't happen!

On a slightly more serious note, the ultimate goal of this extension has been the subject of just a little confliction from the beginning: Providing as much distance of rail to ride upon within boundary limits is an obvious attraction, and indeed, there is at least one significant operational benefit of being able to do so. There are however two distinct difficulties that I have with that. The first, and perhaps the minor issue of laying steel rails in concrete alongside the driveway is both a preference and at the same time an absolute necessity. As previously discussed on this thread; completing the final section of line with the same 16mm aluminium rails as the rest, in an area that must be shared by motor vehicles, and a heavier footfall, dictates a more durable, inset tramway type construction, but I also have a nagging fear that aluminium is rather attractive to scrap metal thieves - whilst the tops of thin strips of rusty steel might be marginally less so? Apart from that, the second point troubling me is perhaps more a case of perception? I cannot help feeling that if I were the Duke of Westminster... or at the very least an obviously successful, retired businessman, my interests and activities might be politely regarded as mere eccentricity - whereas I am clearly not - in which case similar behaviour might more likely be seen by the population at large as peculiar, and dare I imagine, even slightly dangerously so?! What people do in the privacy of their own homes and gardens may be tolerable to some extent, but I am afraid the moment those rails appear from under the gate - and into the full glare of the public gaze...(?) will I have crossed some form of Rubicon?

I have not particularly set out to seek attention in my local community, but it cannot possibly be avoided once the deed is done... and of that I am quite certain!

The Devil may care side of me is still winning though, and in reckless fashion, work on the "ladder" construction has commenced - regardless!

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In the end I decided to use M6 threaded rod for the "rungs". Not up to my usual belt and braces approach I know, but the size of the bar and size of the nuts fitted thereto determined that as a maximum to allow sufficient depth and flange clearance.

There was a bit of amusement to be had drilling consistent holes in the long, and quite unwieldy bars!

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The "tie rods" are rather slender affairs, but I draw some comfort in the belief that they should only really be required to provide gauging - mainly during the pour and puddle phase of laying in the roadbed?!

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That is the main, straight length ready... with the remaining half length needing an awkward curve bending in still to do.

A wagon sent down it for a test roared terribly, almost frightening my witnessing wife! I attempted to assure her that the noise was somewhat accentuated by the track being only loosely laid atop the path slabs!

It should, I trust be a little quieter when solidly set?

Hmm, who am I kidding? A seriously common complaint about trams was that they not only made an awful racket when in progress, but the fear that vibrations caused structural damage to nearby properties!

I do believe that was a factor that a certain Mr. Claude Lane discovered years ago, when the local authorities reacting to similar pressures, evicted him and his wonderfully glorious miniature tram from the seafront at St. Leonards?!

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In which case, if it is true; there's surely nowt as strange as folk... and I stand little chance!

Pete.
 

Brian McKenzie

Western Thunderer
Peter,

Is there a possibility the end of the path could be trimmed - if "allowed" - to ease the curvature? This would enhance prototypical flavour.

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-Brian McK.
 

Peter Insole

Western Thunderer
Thank you Simon, will do! I'm committed now anyway - or some think... oh, never mind!

I have read the horror stories, and seen the graphic illustrations of what bar rail can do to innocent tyre treads and flanges... and I do agree! I cannot help wonder quite what the offending bar profiles were that caused such catastrophic damage though? Therein is something of a puzzle, considering that bar is used so commonly, especially in 5 inch gauge - where not just a few are club/public railways, and upon which quite high mileage can be expected. With all of that said in mind, the bar I chose to purchase was not just based on local availability and cost, but when I inspected it in the shop, was extremely pleased to note the depth of radii at the top and bottom edges! I am also hoping that having the rail alignment set directly in the path of maximum vehicle and regular pedestrian traffic might help to keep the heads slightly smoother as well?

I have to accept that my oddly various use of materials for wheels is bound to be problematic over time anyway!

Thank you too for your suggestion Brian McK. That rather severe reverse curvature on the main line is niggling away at me also since I installed - and travelled quite a few times over it!

The problem is not just the proximity, and clearances between fixed structures - or rather those which would require further serious physical effort (and expenditure) to modify, but practicality too. Oh how I wish it were possible to cut away part of that end slab as you have indicated... but as the following image attests:

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The slabs are effectively hollow, with rebars in the external "frames" only - and none in the relatively thin centre panels. Although they were clearly not designed for such, they have proven to be perfectly durable when walked, run and jumped on for over thirty years! Cutting a slice off the corner of one would I fear be a different matter, for not only would I have to hire an industrial disc cutter specifically for the task, but I fear the result might severely affect that vital structural integrity? We do have one that was square cut in half, (done many years ago) but the section re-used still retains the thicker, central brace.

Please be assured that I am giving serious consideration to the issue though, and so far I have concluded that with a bit of extra jigging, there is still just enough space to reduce the severity of those curves (and slightly improve passenger comfort) later.

I find myself, as previously mentioned, under increasing pressure to complete the extension westwards, as other promised assistance with the remaining major structural and landscaping works etc., is, I am informed in no uncertain terms, relying entirely upon that!

Yesterday, yet another small (ish) step, or maybe wriggle toward the ultimate goal was achieved:

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Yup! Yet another one of those bloomin' swerves! If I were not a glutton for punishment enough?!

This time admittedly, it is a slightly gentler affair - but I am relieved to say so in more than the obvious way: That bar might not look much - and almost appear naturally capable of bending all by itself...

Oh yeah?!

That it is made of steel is only thing I can be absolutely sure of... What kind is a whole other matter! Would it bend? Oh yes... Would the bend stay in it?

Ha, hah!

There was an awful lot of grunting and bashing... plus copious swearing. On a couple of occasions I was concerned that if were were not careful, I could end up on the station roof or hanging from a branch in one of the trees!

The agonising result is still a tad thruppenny bit in a few places... but that is the absolute best I could manage - and just as far as I was ultimately prepared to go with it!

It should, under the ridiculous circumstances, do quite nicely though...

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Unfortunately, the joint here between the two sections is in a frustratingly awkward spot in relation to the Goods Shed doorway!

The existing railhead, and short infill section of aluminium will have to be eased in toward the path to align. I cannot extend the concrete any further than the steel, and without having to go in search of an additional offcut of similar bar, might instead have to install "crossing timbers" at the intersection to form a flush step beneath the doors.

After a brief recovery break, the next task therefore is to work out how to make up some rather complicated shuttering.

Pete.
 

Mike W

Western Thunderer
Whilst I don't fully understand the Westward extension, I think the little wiggle adds character. Wouldn't it be boring to drive along if it was dead straight? And a speed limit sign might add to the interest too.

Mike
 
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