4mm Llanfair
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oldravendale
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Well, Jonte, I have to say that we certainly do differing opinions, otherwise the whole forum would be very sterile. The trick which we all know is that any such disagreements are never personal and we'll never fall out over them. Most active members comment on postings all the time.Thank you, Longbow, for your input and welcome to Western Thunder.
Just me in conversation as we tend to do on this backwater of forums.
Wasn’t looking for a response or discussion; we don’t do differences of opinion here - especially those accompanied by exclamation marks
I’m sure you will find us a refreshing change and remember: the currency here is photographs
Good luck!
Jonte
It'd be a sad world if everyone agreed with me all the time - or ever!
Brian
jonte
Western Thunderer
Flaxfield
Western Thunderer
I feel compelled to disagree..............
oldravendale
Western Thunderer
Not corrected, Jonte.
Only my opinion.
Brian
Only my opinion.Brian
oldravendale
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jonte
Western Thunderer
Not corrected, Jonte.
Brian
A worthy one nevertheless, Brian, as always
Jon
LarryG
Western Thunderer
The branch sets have already been made.
E147 brake composites B-set...
Full third and E157 brake composite...
D91 bow-end brake third and E157 brake composite...
D91 bow-end brake third (spare vehicle)
I would dearly love a Hawksworth 10-compartment full third to put with one of the E157/s, but.....
E147 brake composites B-set...
Full third and E157 brake composite...
D91 bow-end brake third and E157 brake composite...
D91 bow-end brake third (spare vehicle)
I would dearly love a Hawksworth 10-compartment full third to put with one of the E157/s, but.....
LarryG
Western Thunderer
Its about time Peco realized its standard code 75 rail joiners are far too tight a fit in it bullhead rail. This rail joiner problem became apparent to me back in 2017 when I had previously had no problems sliding Peco rail joiners on SMP bullhead rails.
While struggling to hitch together a string of track and points, injuries to my right hand have been mounting up after each slip of the pliers.
What price realism? I foresee massive problems when it is split down into sections for gluing and ballasting in one go.
While struggling to hitch together a string of track and points, injuries to my right hand have been mounting up after each slip of the pliers.
What price realism? I foresee massive problems when it is split down into sections for gluing and ballasting in one go.
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LarryG
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There is that Phil, but the joins will not be as secure anymore. Add to that the floppiness of Peco's bullhead stuff compared with SMP bullhead and the problems of lining everything up before the PVA goes off and prevents much ballast adhering.
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Yorkshire Dave
Western Thunderer
I don't know much about the Peco 'OO' bullhead rail - is it designed to use code 100 rather than code 75 track joiners? I do know their O gauge setrack range uses code 100 track joiners.
It may be a case of using what you are comfortable with and create a bit of fiction whereby the branch was laid with FB rail as an experiment.
It may be a case of using what you are comfortable with and create a bit of fiction whereby the branch was laid with FB rail as an experiment.
AJC
Western Thunderer
An aside to all this, but PECO Bullhead track has special rail joiners for the job which are excellent for my purposes - I've used them for my EM layout - and ensure horizontal and vertical alignment (item SI-114). Obviously I haven't used them with PECO's own bullhead track - I have more than enough legacy stuff to need to buy any of the EM product yet.
Adam
Flaxfield
Western Thunderer
LarryG
Western Thunderer
To be honest I didnt know about these. I had relaid it all in Code 75 streamline this afternoon before I locked up to make the evening meal. I'll check things out in the morning.
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jonte
Western Thunderer
Morning, Larry.
If you take a close look at the first picture I sent you the other day - you’ll need to scrutinise as they are indeed very small - you’ll see the Peco BH fishplates fitted either side of the trap point and to the far side if the BH point, as alluded to by Rob and Adam.
I recall they were a tight fit and difficult to assemble, however, the task can be made slightly easier by sliding a Stanley blade into the gap and twisting, so that it opens it out a little more. You’ll find it makes fitting a lot easier.
Jonte
If you take a close look at the first picture I sent you the other day - you’ll need to scrutinise as they are indeed very small - you’ll see the Peco BH fishplates fitted either side of the trap point and to the far side if the BH point, as alluded to by Rob and Adam.
I recall they were a tight fit and difficult to assemble, however, the task can be made slightly easier by sliding a Stanley blade into the gap and twisting, so that it opens it out a little more. You’ll find it makes fitting a lot easier.
Jonte
LarryG
Western Thunderer
Thanks for that Jonte. When you mentioned the SL-114's were fiddly, I think I now remember using some 4 years ago and discarding them because the track sections unclipped when I removed them in order to spread PVA. I may be wrong of course. Some are now on order so i'll find out tomorrow.
The whole scenic section of track was cut & joined yesterday using Streamline flat bottom Code 75, but looking at it this morning, I would never be satisfied. So I'll do it all again using Peco bullhead and take my time gluing down and ballasting in small chunks. It'll be my final layout so I may as well it right.
Bullhead on the left shows the difference in appearance...
The whole scenic section of track was cut & joined yesterday using Streamline flat bottom Code 75, but looking at it this morning, I would never be satisfied. So I'll do it all again using Peco bullhead and take my time gluing down and ballasting in small chunks. It'll be my final layout so I may as well it right.
Bullhead on the left shows the difference in appearance...
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Focalplane
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I have vague recollections of using Lake Vyrnwy roads as an alternative to driving from the Shrewsbury area to Portmadoc in the early 1960s, taking the B roads from Knockin all the way over one of the two roads at the head of Lake Vyrnwy. The lesser of the two was quite a challenge to early Morris Minors with sections of 1:4 but we made it with a bit of get-out-and-push. Liverpool, like Birmingham in the Elan Valley, did not like us using the lake shore for picnics back then. Now Welsh Water provide picnic tables! It might be a bit of a stretch, therefore, to suggest that Lake Vyrnwy would increase passenger levels back then! There was the hotel, of course, but us picnic-ers always brought our own lunches, in fact I did not even know there was a hotel there.
Looking good, Larry, It will be nice to see the odd Dukedog paddling into the station!
Paul
Looking good, Larry, It will be nice to see the odd Dukedog paddling into the station!
Paul