4mm Monks Ferry LNWR

[jonte]

Most atmospheric, Dave, thank you.

I travelled once from there in the late sixties. I’m sure the buses over the water were blue and cream if memory serves.

Incidentally, I recall a member of the model railway society at which Mike @Ressaldar is a member made a fine model of the station.

Perhaps when Mike’s recovered from today’s ordeal he might honour us with a photo

Best,

Jon

Apologies Jonte, for not quite being Monks Ferry or Seacombe but is still on the Wirral - I came across this photo while searching for buses in my negative collection and those inherited from my father and grandfather.

New Brighton in the late 1950s - 1960s period - complete with bus. What is noticeable is the absence of traffic. Photo was taken by my grandfather.

 

[Tim Birch]

That ol’ chestnut……….

Interesting to know Tim, thank you. Perhaps then there might just be a position for a 517 in Indian Red (Whenever new stock arrives )

Thanks also for the link, Tim. I’ll try and obtain a copy.

Here’s the C&BR insignia on the low relief station I made for the layout:

View attachment 263871

Cheers.

Jon

Here is the link to the accident report. 'If I'd had my normal brake I'd have stopped'!!

https://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/BoT_Woodside1880.pdf

 

[jonte]

Here is the link to the accident report. 'If I'd had my normal brake I'd have stopped'!!

https://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/documents/BoT_Woodside1880.pdf

Thanks, Tim.

I reckon he was on his phone

Btw: I traced the book you recommended. Will ask my nephew or son in law to download it for me as I only use an iPad these days.

Many thanks once again.

Jon

Edit: a tenuous and light hearted reference to the cause of a similar incident in recent times by a Merseyrail driver at Kirkby railway station.

 

[simond]

blue and cream

Certainly were.

And a nicer, bluer blue than the greener shade used by MPTE.

and in those days the 503s were green.

 

[Ressaldar]

Incidentally, I recall a member of the model railway society at which Mike @Ressaldar is a member made a fine model of the station.

Perhaps when Mike’s recovered from today’s ordeal he might honour us with a photo

Hi Jon,

I will once I find a way of doing it as I'm having troubles between the old & new laptops and the way files were/were not transferred.

regards

Mike

 

[John57sharp]

I think that's a Walasey bus and therefore cream and yellow?

I have a hard copy of said book in my archive and will dig it out.

John

 

[Ressaldar]

Hi Jon,

try these for starters

These are from 'the early days' I try some later shots later.
cheers

Mike

 

[Tim Birch]

Thanks, Tim.

I reckon he was on his phone

Btw: I traced the book you recommended. Will ask my nephew or son in law to download it for me as I only use an iPad these days.

Many thanks once again.

Jon

Edit: a tenuous and light hearted reference to the cause of a similar incident in recent times by a Merseyrail driver at Kirkby railway station.

I think that the accident report shows some of the day to day tensions that there were in running a railway - pressure on the driver to arrive on time so that the wealthy businessmen could catch the ferry to Liverpool which was a hundred yards or so from the staion, without making up lost time due to speeding; passengers being able to berate a loco crew as they passed the open footplates on their way out of the station; pressure on the station masters to get the train away on time even though the influential season ticket holders expected it to wait while they bought their daily paper; passengers who took a detailed interest in the running of 'their' train and were happy to complain to higher management about what they saw as deficiencies in running by railway servants.

 

[jonte]

Hi Jon,

try these for starters
View attachment 263896
View attachment 263897These are from 'the early days' I try some later shots later.
cheers

Mike

Thanks, Mike.

I’m there!

Wonderful stuff.

Jon

 

[jonte]

I think that the accident report shows some of the day to day tensions that there were in running a railway - pressure on the driver to arrive on time so that the wealthy businessmen could catch the ferry to Liverpool which was a hundred yards or so from the staion, without making up lost time due to speeding; passengers being able to berate a loco crew as they passed the open footplates on their way out of the station; pressure on the station masters to get the train away on time even though the influential season ticket holders expected it to wait while they bought their daily paper; passengers who took a detailed interest in the running of 'their' train and were happy to complain to higher management about what they saw as deficiencies in running by railway servants.

You certainly do know your ‘stuff’, Tim.

Interesting too.

Many thanks,

Jon

 

[Ressaldar]

Hi Jon,

these are the best I can do, taken on 16.12.2018 Open Day, I seem to have 'lost' subsequent files in the transfer between laptops





out of interest, the clock in the tower is fully functional
cheers

Mike

 

[jonte]

Many thanks, Mike.

Hope your feeling okay after yesterday.

Jon

 

[Ressaldar]

Hi Jon,

not feeling too bad thanks, trying to sort out the lap top conundrum.

regards

Mike

 

[jonte]

Of late, I’ve been corresponding with Mr. Redrup of LRM who kindly furnished me with their valuable hand guide. Not only does it seek to reassure the newcomer to purchasing appropriate kits from their extensive range of motive power models, but also tackling kit building in general.

I’m sincerely grateful:



Currently pricing a full kit of parts to complete a model of a Crewe Special tank, as Monks will require a reliable slow running shunter which runs on DC.

Although the this Minories based layout was originally intended for DCC ( earlier pictures show a DCC fitted 8F traversing the station throat), I’ve decided to return to what I’m used to for this layout at least.

The chip I purchased for the Precedent won’t be wasted; it can be utilised on my Waterloo based version of Monks Ferry found elsewhere on the Forum.

Thanks for reading.

jonte

 

[simond]

Jon

You can install sectional switching etc for DC and convert to DCC at a convenient later date if you so choose - if starting DCC you might make some different wiring choices but later migration is no issue.

Keep up the good work!

Simon

 

[jonte]

Jon

You can install sectional switching etc for DC and convert to DCC at a convenient later date if you so choose - if starting DCC you might make some different wiring choices but later migration is no issue.

Keep up the good work!

Simon

Thanks, Simon

To be honest, I’ve already covered some aspects of that when constructing. If you look at some of the photos of the terminus end you’ll note that there are six switches: 3 for the solenoid uncouplers (not sure if I’ll stick with those), and the other three are for traditional ‘breaks’ at the buffers end. My powers of concentration aren’t the best so they’re there to stop me driving a train through the end. Also, if I forget how to operate theDCC controller and panic!

I do indeed need to reassess and try and identify where further breaks are needed. If you could spare a moment whenever, Simon, perhaps a suggestion or two would greatly assist as you’re far better at this stuff than me?

Cheers

Jon

 

[simond]

Thanks, Simon

To be honest, I’ve already covered some aspects of that when constructing. If you look at some of the photos of the terminus end you’ll note that there are six switches: 3 for the solenoid uncouplers (not sure if I’ll stick with those), and the other three are for traditional ‘breaks’ at the buffers end. My powers of concentration aren’t the best so they’re there to stop me driving a train through the end. Also, if I forget how to operate theDCC controller and panic!

I do indeed need to reassess and try and identify where further breaks are needed. If you could spare a moment whenever, Simon, perhaps a suggestion or two would greatly assist as you’re far better at this stuff than me?

Cheers

Jon

Jon

I’d be happy to, please point me at a track plan, which I suspect you’ve already posted, and I’ll prepare some suggestions.

Provided you’re not in a hurry…,

Atb
Simon

 

[jonte]

Jon

I’d be happy to, please point me at a track plan, which I suspect you’ve already posted, and I’ll prepare some suggestions.

Provided you’re not in a hurry…,

Atb
Simon

Oh I’ve plenty to do, believe me Simon, before I can return to the rails here, so please in your own time

Many thanks.

Jon

P.S. Long time since I visited the initial pages of the thread so can’t even remember if I posted a plan to be honest. Will post up the online plan of Minories, provided nobody minds?

Jon

 

[jonte]

Here it is, Simon:



Now I’ve looked at it, looks like Mr. Freezer has already done so.

Jon

 

[simond]

Well, he has, but I’ll have a look anyway…